tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7226481506470506962.post2659924324610072220..comments2023-10-25T08:44:46.963-07:00Comments on Two Friars and A Fool: Rob Harrison, The Gauntlet is ThrownAric Clarkhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15241157655075444268noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7226481506470506962.post-67693519636497276172009-10-05T08:58:49.861-07:002009-10-05T08:58:49.861-07:00Hey man, I tried. This wasn't easy.Hey man, I tried. This wasn't easy.Douglas Underhillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02215736448645573566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7226481506470506962.post-60434717887171187482009-10-05T04:54:12.333-07:002009-10-05T04:54:12.333-07:00There's a difference between promising to send...There's a difference between promising to send huge amounts of aid to Africa to fight AIDS and actually sending it. Last time I looked, the amount *actually sent* was only a fraction of what was promised by the Bush administration.<br /><br />Promises are easy to make and while I appreciate the promise, you know what they say about good intentions.Alanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16274395216929104919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7226481506470506962.post-44444300206211879012009-10-04T21:37:42.301-07:002009-10-04T21:37:42.301-07:00The point of those testimonies, is that late-term ...The point of those testimonies, is that late-term abortion is already illegal in all but a few places and where it is legal it is highly highly regulated so that it is effectively on a case by case basis and if u read those testimonies there are some excruciatingly difficult situations which I doubt anyone could give an easy answer too. Late term abortion is probably the least problematic form, because it is the least likely to be elective. It is not a form of birthcontrol. It is only used in rare and terrifyingly ugly situations.Aric Clarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15241157655075444268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7226481506470506962.post-66028237727754626032009-10-04T21:20:48.728-07:002009-10-04T21:20:48.728-07:00I dunno. I don't think I'm misrepresentin...I dunno. I don't think I'm misrepresenting. Maybe I should've added that I think that a terminal diagnosis is a moral argument for a late-term abortion. I believe the legislation only banned third-trimester abortions, and the information these families were getting in the stories occurred in the second trimester.<br /><br />There's a grey area around viability that is basically impossible to legislate, and even viability is dependent on technology. At some point, a blastocyst might be technically viable in an artificial womb or something.<br /><br />I mean, where would the cut-off point be for a justifiable late-term abortion of a fetus that had serious life-threatening health problems predicted? A 10% survival chance? 50%? 80%?<br /><br />And on the other hand, when is this fetus a person? An unanswerable question for me, but an approachable one. For me, the third trimester is just too close to the personhood horizon to terminate. Though I definitely see the argument for a case-by-case system to look at serious health complications and that kind of thing. I mean, sometimes nature just messes up and it isn't anyone's fault.Douglas Underhillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02215736448645573566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7226481506470506962.post-4706256861325056552009-10-04T18:45:11.117-07:002009-10-04T18:45:11.117-07:00#8 is definitely the best thing he did - and bette...#8 is definitely the best thing he did - and better than any president before him (or since - yet). So that is something.<br /><br />On #1 I suggest you read <a href="http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/06/its-so-personal-the-roundup.html" rel="nofollow">this</a> for starters. Late-term abortion is widely misrepresented.Aric Clarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15241157655075444268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7226481506470506962.post-40148776945743623832009-10-04T09:26:40.165-07:002009-10-04T09:26:40.165-07:00It occurred to me - I don't know if it is clea...It occurred to me - I don't know if it is clear, but I am doing this tongue-in-cheek and having fun with it. This is the internet, though, and often that isn't apparent in text. But regardless, all the talk of gauntlet-throwing and so on is intended to be humorous, at least to me.Douglas Underhillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02215736448645573566noreply@blogger.com