tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7226481506470506962.post4663006197517448640..comments2023-10-25T08:44:46.963-07:00Comments on Two Friars and A Fool: Ordaining LGBTQ people makes it harder to work with churches in the rest of the worldAric Clarkhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15241157655075444268noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7226481506470506962.post-1799164941654037052010-12-04T18:48:45.282-08:002010-12-04T18:48:45.282-08:00I've re-thought that last comment, and I don&#...I've re-thought that last comment, and I don't apologize if it seems harsh.<br /><br />We can play polity games in the PCUSA, but I think it is irresponsible to loose sight of what's going on in "the rest of the world." This truly is a matter of life and death, and there are factions in the world working for the forces of death who are being funded and supported by evangelicals in the US.<br /><br />This argument also completely and arrogantly ignores those many countries in the world who have legalized gay marriage.<br /><br />Given how awful the arguments are on the other side, it is hard to award a Most Awesomely Stupid Argument medal, but this one would probably take it.Alanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16274395216929104919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7226481506470506962.post-23380494259503198952010-12-03T19:54:19.669-08:002010-12-03T19:54:19.669-08:00I just love listening to a bunch of rich white Ame...I just love listening to a bunch of rich white Americans talking about what the rest of the world is going to think.<br /><br />Unless they mean by "working with the rest of the world" is that it will be hard to work with folks from Uganda who want pass laws making homosexuality punishable by death. Are those the folks they're talking about? Because they seem to share their values.Alanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16274395216929104919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7226481506470506962.post-54112609436185298522010-12-03T18:15:46.476-08:002010-12-03T18:15:46.476-08:00This has been a LOT of writing, and researching an...This has been a LOT of writing, and researching and thinking, but I am looking forward to changing gears and presenting our positive arguments in favor of inclusion and justice.<br /><br />It's kind of like vegetables before dessert. Now that that's out of the way...Douglas Underhillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02215736448645573566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7226481506470506962.post-80520925857208549582010-12-03T14:41:55.265-08:002010-12-03T14:41:55.265-08:00Great stuff. Wasn't is Spong who said, "I...Great stuff. Wasn't is Spong who said, "I don't want to be a part of a church united in homophobia"? I believe he was reacting to a Lambeth resolution. Anyway, keep writing. As a PC(USA) elder, I'm grateful for voices like yours.Rileyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05586889547265615889noreply@blogger.com