Wednesday, April 8, 2009

Rick Warren Said What?

Rick Warren, who was the subject of our first podcast, recently went on CNN's Larry King Live. While on the show he made the following comments:
In the first place, I am not an anti-gay or anti-gay marriage activist. I never have been, never will be." Warren also says, “During the whole Proposition 8 thing, I never once went to a meeting, never once issued a statement, never—never once even gave an endorsement in the two years Prop 8 was going.”

That's really interesting because I could have sworn this was an endorsement:

Am I missing something?

h/t Levellers.


Doug Hagler said...

I don't know what you could be missing here. It looks like Rick Warren is just a good, old-fashioned hypocrite :)

Eddie Louise said...

Two things...

First: No Pastor should ever LIE like this. He didn't say 'I don't remember endorsing' he said unequivocally "I NEVER endorsed'. Shameful!

Second: EVERY culture? EVERY religion? Islam encourages/allows polygamy. Buddhism does not address marriage at all. Is this guy just ignorant, narrow minded or a deliberate deceiver?

Doug Hagler said...

Can't help myself -

Buddhism definitely talks about marriage :)

So does the Bible - there are like 8 kinds of sanctioned marriage, only one of which is even similar to what Rick Warren has in mind...which is of course marriage between equals who love each other, which is a modern invention :) (something else to thank filthy liberals for!)

Aric Clark said...

Well... while Buddhist practitioners certainly can and do get married (not monks) and the Buddha did give advice for marriage, marriage is neither recommended nor discouraged in Buddhism. There is no official ceremony or ritual prescribed, nor rules required for marriage beyond what is already expected of every Buddhist. Most Buddhists I've known have had an attitude toward marriage much like they do toward gods - "meh". A sort of agnosticism or apathy. It can go well or it can be a source of attachment, perpetuation of desire, and therefore continuation of suffering.

Aric Clark said...

That being said, Buddhism, like Christianity is not monolithic, and there probably are diverse opinions on the subject.

Doug Hagler said...

Yeah, I was thinking in this case of Vajrayana Buddhism, and it was only on my mind because my coworker is a Vajrayana Buddhist and wants to get married :) She's certainly received a lot of teachings on the subject.

But, anyway, the main point for me is that when Rick Warren defines "Biblical marriage" it just indicates to me that he's not read the many strange things the Bible actually says about marriage, but is rather unconsciously adopting the idea of the union of loving equals which was invented by eeevil modern liberals and trouble-makers...

(possibly secretly reading Song of Songs on the side :)

Jodie said...

It's an odd lie. Too black and white.

There must be something mentally wrong with him. Seriously.

It would not be the first time someone of his stature just melted down and came apart.